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sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Wed, 08/30/2017 - 19:51 (Reply to #401)

What's your approx para lvl now mate? And are you just rerolling legs in kanai's for your gear?

I've come up like 300 para levels this week and am finally at the 2k mark. This script is good to go. 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/30/2017 - 22:36

I'm para 3300ish
just running grifts and using cube for upgrades
pick one item and basically run it for a week.


sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Wed, 08/30/2017 - 22:45 (Reply to #403)

Yeah gold, I think I need to do the same for the few remaining upgrades I need. Most of my gear is matching the D3 planner, I just need the para points to back it up, particularly vit. 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 13:08

One thing to remember on gearing...secondaries count

Give up a primal if you have an ancient with good secondaries...phys resistance is really that good!!! PUR is excellent!! and melee/range dmg reduction is king!


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 15:02 (Reply to #405)

Speaking of melee/range dmg reduction... 

O.O

vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 15:12 (Reply to #406)

Oh dude you suck!!!

Seriously you should turn it into a soul and find a good primal

:)

Damn that's one fine piece


sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 20:57 (Reply to #407)

Ah yeah good call, that's where I've been going wrong I think. Arcane is the key reason my runs are longer at the higher levels


Gabynator1997
Joined: 03/08/2016 - 12:00
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 21:35

can someone explain me the reason of using the Diamond gem in the head instead of the Amethyst? 


Cyp
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Joined: 12/26/2015 - 19:41
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 23:09 (Reply to #409)

Cooldown reduction. So you can spam Blood Rush and Bone Armor faster.
Making runs faster, adding a bit of survivability.
But you can always see if %Life is more beneficial to you.


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vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/31/2017 - 23:40

I ran diamond's for a long time...but now I have 29% cdr without the diamond...38ish with it. I decided to go with the amethyst. But that's just the way my gear worked out. 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Fri, 09/01/2017 - 14:04


Both runs - GR 86, both prestacked pools and keys - ESOTERIC, BOTT, ENFORCER (no Zeis -- too many random deaths killing my pools)
Haven't added the paragon points since 3263 --- so paragon difference shouldn't have had an impact

First run
- ran with all diamonds
- 6000 vit in paragon - rest in INT

Second run
- changed to all INT gems and amethyst in helm
- 5000 vit from paragon - rest in INT

Got a really big bump in xp/hr just with changing a few things -- so play around with your set ups and try to optimize the runs
I wasn't dying with esoteric in a ring slot (dropped zeis) -- so I started changing my toughness -- I think it was a decent improvement

Zei's gives me A LOT more -- but it is less predictable. I still die on occasion -- and if that happens early in my pre-stacked pools my numbers drop to around 430b/hr. I have had one run over 500 b/hr, but I was very lucky (no deaths in 6 hours). That has only happened ONCE!!!! I usually die from molten (without esoteric).

BTW here is my profile
https://www.d3planner.com/636661798


sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 01:46 (Reply to #412)

I changed to your setup and jumped 100B XP an hour... Running 80s with pools

Edit: Also running 93s with zero deaths.


Roth
Joined: 01/29/2016 - 10:41
Fri, 09/01/2017 - 17:59

Hi!

Pretty much all of my deaths comes from bot running into moltens or corpse explosions. Is there any way to tune avoidance so he is waiting before porting inside or just running into to pick globes? Or do I have to stack so much toughness so he can survives/use star?
 

Best regards!


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Fri, 09/01/2017 - 19:47

See above

Yeah - you'll need that much toughness. Use esoteric -- helps a ton


roddhp
Joined: 04/21/2017 - 21:35
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 01:42

 

For me, the necro has let go of some progression regressions. Does anyone know how to solve it?

Master profile is configured correctly as Rek.

 


itsme
Joined: 07/02/2017 - 20:31
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 09:58

I'm lucky to have less than 50 deaths overnight. lol. I'm not sure if the GRs I'm running are too high or if my avoidance settings need to be tweaked. Probably both. I haven't sat and watched it though to see why it's dying so much.

Also, what do you guys do when you need upgrades? Do you upgrade rares or run bounties? Bounties just take soooo long.

Any gear pointers? https://www.d3planner.com/


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 12:01 (Reply to #417)

I would watch the bot for a few runs and see what's happening...that will help with tweaks.

Also send a d3planner -- maybe we can make some suggestions

If you are dying that much - may try dropping the level a bit to start.

As far as upgrades go...that really depends on the item you want to upgrade
Things that I would upgrade from rares - scythe, shield, 6 piece sets -- why those - they have fewer options when upgrading - especially the weapon and offhand! So you have a higher chance of getting the upgrade to the item you need and therefore an actual upgrade

Things I rarely upgrade from rares -- rings and ami's -- too many freaking options and they almost never turn out well. For those I always use bounties. 
I run bounties for about three days before I start the upgrade for a single item -- get well over 1500 mats per act. And then just hammer threw. I got really lucky on my TP -- got perfect primal in like 10 rerolls. Then I burned the rest on an OK compass rose.

Anyhow --- some things work better for rare upgradaes and some better for bounty upgrades. 

Belts were half and half -- there are a lot of belts, but the belts we are looking for seem to be fairly common in the rare upgrade route.


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 12:04 (Reply to #418)

BTW...can't get your d3planner setup...it's blank
 


itsme
Joined: 07/02/2017 - 20:31
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 14:03 (Reply to #419)

vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 14:10

It appears your max life pool is only 955,242 - that's with no paragon points. That's gonna be pretty low.
I would dtich your zeis and go with esoteric. Try to bump up your vitality -- aiming for 2.0 million


itsme
Joined: 07/02/2017 - 20:31
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 16:53 (Reply to #421)

2m without paragon? I dumped all paragon into vit and have 1.7m


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 17:13 (Reply to #422)

Well there are two approaches
1. half in vit and half in int - dump zeis and run eso. Manually stack your pools and check bot every few hours to restack...a little time consuming, but nets you the most xp/hr
2. screw vit and accept the deaths. Don't run pools at all and go for the magic 10.5 games per hour -- find the grift level that you can complete at that rate. Wait until you have more paragon and then adjustr accordingly. In this set up I would run zeis, and stack as much dmg as possible.


itsme
Joined: 07/02/2017 - 20:31
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 17:24 (Reply to #423)

Deaths don't bother me. I just feel like they really slow you down.


bara78rus
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Joined: 11/20/2014 - 16:04
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 15:58

can You Write Here Avoid set and Fast mode pls


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 16:31 (Reply to #425)

they are listed in the master profile in the first post.
You can go to each one, clone it, and make your own master profile -- identical to the one Rek has posted.


alcatraz91
Joined: 08/09/2014 - 03:09
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 20:22

great work rek :)

running the normal one :)

maybe i am trying the sherminator :)


what you use guys? the sherminator or the other one? :p


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 20:51

Sherminator...seems to work very well. Gives a little more toughness and seems to proc krysbins more frequently


greatscott
Joined: 05/10/2017 - 07:21
Sat, 09/02/2017 - 23:40

Great work rek.

I understand that the script is meant for GR, not really focusing on other routines such as Uber Realms. Just some info for you in case you would like to customize the avoidance setting for Uber Realms in the future:

For Uber Realms, it's helpful to stay away from the bosses, to reduce the chance of taking damage, and to increase the damage from Zeis' stone. For example, the last several avoidance settings here: https://www.ros-bot.com/rathma-keep-distance-uber-realms-704139 tells the bot to keep distance from the bosses. (In case it's not accessable, you can view it from my master profile: https://www.ros-bot.com/master-profiles/necro-686729 .)

Meanwhile, the item pickup distance will need to be increased from 30y as in your pickit to something like 75y or longer, so that the bot won't miss the loot. 

For Uber Realms, necromancer just takes several seconds longer than for example LoN LTK monk due to the need of spawning skeletons in the beginning. For Uber Keys, it's probably faster to use a class that runs faster anyway. I ended up using LoN LTK monk instead of necromancer for Uber keys and realms because it's a bit faster and robust, but for Uber Realms necromancer is still a good option.

Just FYI.


Cyp
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Joined: 12/26/2015 - 19:41
Sun, 09/03/2017 - 00:58


P17xx
GR82
Prestacked keys. No pools
1.7mio health and 2.4mio sheet DPS.
Rek's mages. Modified avoidances. 
Just need 2b more to reach the 300 mark. At low paragon this is just way too awesome.

 


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sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Sun, 09/03/2017 - 02:47 (Reply to #430)

What's the details of your avoidance mods?


Cyp
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Joined: 12/26/2015 - 19:41
Sun, 09/03/2017 - 07:05 (Reply to #431)

Avoidance distances are from Rek. Health is just 100% at everything related to special attacks like molten, creep mobs etc. and Avoid Affixes ticked "True".
Elite/RG/Minion etc detection and health is by Reks. It doesn't really avoid ALL the explosions and sometimes it just sits in frozen/arcane beams etc, but most of the times it pretends to make an effort to avoid it.
Half of the deaths come from melee charges by "white" mobs though. Need more of that sweet-sweet physical resistance. :/


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FixiWiz
Joined: 08/22/2017 - 02:39
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 00:32 (Reply to #432)

i have same stats, doing 86 at 240 bn/h, if i make 82 i lower exp.
but i want 300 too ) 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Sun, 09/03/2017 - 01:05

Those are some amazing numbers!


sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 06:07

For the life of me I can't hit 10 games an hour. I end up with ~ 280bn/Hr +/- 20bn/hr on 7-8 games an hour over 10 hours or so. I've tried lower runs all the way through to 90s without getting there. Seems that 86s on lower games per hour are maximal for XP for me though. I have no movment speed increase on any items though, that may make a difference. No pools, just stacked keys.

Vx, I changed a few things up and saw some increases, my APS is at 1.71, AD is at 141% and CDR is at 27%, however, I seem to have better results and faster runs when that's above 30%. Running estoric and topaz gems. Sheet dmg is 2.5mil and health is well low at 1.5mil, but it seems to be working.

Also, I'm having a lot of stopped runs when my interwebs lags out and my bot doesn't click the error box that comes up. Just stays there open, wasting time. Anyone experiencing this or have a possible solution?


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 09:39

Since a get a lot questions if attackspeed really not increases the attackrate of mages, i did some testing myself. I used ext. serv. passive but no ring.

 

1,1 attacks per second (without TnT): always 13 shots
1,5 attacks per second (without TnT): always 13 shots
1,9 attacks per second (without TnT): always 13 shots
1,1 attacks per second (with TnT): always 20 shots
1,5 attacks per second (with TnT): always 20 shots
1,9 attacks per second (with TnT): always 20 shots

 

So i came to the same results as Biochemikas (see page 6 on us forum): There are no breakpoints for mages, attack speed only increases their dmg but not their attack rate. Only TnT increases their attack rate.

Taken from Dfans --- there are no break points for mages. You don't need to stack attack speed (PER SE) -- it will increase mage damage per hit and increase the essence recovery from your primary skill...but I would recommend taking another stat for damage if you have the chance.

Your AD is wicked!!! You might want to sacrifice some AD (and possible AS) for vitaility. 

 


fz64
Joined: 07/22/2017 - 15:03
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 14:00

Provide a data point
PLG 1900
No pre-stacked keys / pool 
Rift for pool / key

300 kB/hour
10.5 games / hour
GR 85
with 1 death in 50 games

My build is slightly different from the OP.
I found Nem works for me the best: it makes T13 rift fast, so that the bot can take care of key/pool just in the same build. Bot can run on its own for days/weeks (only interrupted by network disconnect issue)
https://www.d3planner.com/734922177

Consider the time cost on farming pre-stack keys/pools in those 500kB/hour reports, this 300kB/hour all inclusive is pretty decent.


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 17:33 (Reply to #437)

You should think about ditching extended serv and go with overwhleming essence -- the damage boost is better than the mage duration. 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 17:33 (Reply to #438)

You should think about ditching extended serv and go with overwhleming essence -- the damage boost is better than the mage duration. 


dakeyras
Joined: 04/26/2017 - 05:42
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 14:22


https://www.d3planner.com/633257836
4 days run (i was on holydays)
GR82
P1700ish
Prestacked keys / No prestacked pool / No search for pools
As low paragon, i decided to go full damage, all points in INT
1M175k health unbuff
Everything set as the master profile on first page.

 


Baltazarka
Joined: 06/14/2016 - 09:29
Mon, 09/04/2017 - 15:03

dakeyras
Joined: 04/26/2017 - 05:42
Tue, 09/05/2017 - 07:50


Wow this guys did a solo GR118 with the same build as us ! https://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/%EB%B6%81%EA%B7%B9%EA%B3%B0-31995/%EB%B6%81%EA%B7%B9%EB%A7%88%EA%B7%80%ED%95%A0%EB%A9%88/65810239
I think we can do it too ! xD


Roth
Joined: 01/29/2016 - 10:41
Tue, 09/05/2017 - 07:44 (Reply to #442)

Unfortunately it was trang, checked Asian servers :(


Icelance
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Joined: 03/18/2015 - 14:09
Tue, 09/05/2017 - 13:55

Someone have idea why my d3helper crash each time ? I go at work after checked all programs is open and when i return i alway see d3helper closed..


saterus69
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Joined: 05/18/2014 - 19:42
Tue, 09/05/2017 - 21:02

BEST T11 BUILD

http://www.diablofans.com/builds/94929-gachibass-necro-t13-speed

add a emerald to the helm for extra gold
remove T13 avoidances
remove all gold picks/ radius
remove health globe radius
remove rahtmas cache
stack INT (paragon)
bone damage where ever possible(optional)

Profit.
 


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russianvr4
Joined: 03/17/2017 - 02:05
Tue, 09/05/2017 - 20:19 (Reply to #445)

you have some proof of that? screenshot of your games/hr with D3 planner link


saterus69
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Joined: 05/18/2014 - 19:42
Wed, 09/06/2017 - 09:13 (Reply to #446)

I won't spoon feed you, just craft everything yourself.and test it out.

That build requires no specific stat, and everything melts.

Therefore,that in itself,should be sufficient information to try and test it out,for yourself.

Besides i'm lazy.

https://www.d3planner.com/118062431


One That Knows Nothing,Can Understand Nothing.

russianvr4
Joined: 03/17/2017 - 02:05
Wed, 09/06/2017 - 11:34 (Reply to #447)

a screenshot of less than 5 min long runtime is worthless. i can post you a screenshot of my necro getting 22gph after the first turn in... come back with something showing that 17gph after 3-4 hr MINIMUM run time, and maybe you'll impress someone. 

 


saterus69
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Joined: 05/18/2014 - 19:42
Sun, 09/10/2017 - 16:56 (Reply to #448)

https://www.d3planner.com/378325874

add atleast 2 mil and you wont die
command skeletons is optional,


One That Knows Nothing,Can Understand Nothing.

Cyp
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Joined: 12/26/2015 - 19:41
Sat, 09/16/2017 - 06:14 (Reply to #449)

Only 12 per hour?
With the rathma set-up i get 13.4-13.8 games/hr.
Doesn't really look all that fast.


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sphinky
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Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Thu, 09/07/2017 - 19:50 (Reply to #450)

Mate, this is good to go


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