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ladivu
Joined: 09/25/2015 - 21:31
Mon, 08/21/2017 - 15:18

Hi there, below are my results so far, avoidance, fastmode, gear etc. as suggested by the master profile / OP.

Thanks rek! This is by far my best result, even outclassed my fully pimped SWK Monk in the same routine (rift/grift nothing prestacked)

Runs seen here are Grift/Rift, without anything prestacked, no keys nor pools.

Running maximum yolo-setup, 1,5mil HP, 4,9mil dmg in town, gear is absolutely suboptimal.

@500b+ guys, could you give the non-prestacked runs a try as well? really curious about those numbers :-P.

GR84

GR85

Thanks again for the really great work! :-)

cheers!


chino
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Joined: 08/18/2015 - 23:54
Mon, 08/21/2017 - 22:01

@vx6546wb

Ok, that clears it up a bit. It opened my eyes on how that's actually faster than I thought. Thanks mate!


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Mon, 08/21/2017 - 23:30

I certainly don't have perfect gear...but with the current gear I am running GR 85 and averaging 440b/hr

I preload pools and have pools on search. I usually get 2-3 deaths for every 8 hours...haven't seen them often, but it usually due to stupid bot running into a molten explosion.

btw...here is my set up. It is the REK build with most of radiohead's suggestions. I was running a HF amulet wtih overwhelming essence and a unity...had a good HF and a perfect primal unity...but then the primal TP came up and I haven't looked back.

I use this for paragoning...it's efficient as hell. 
For T13 runs...I change a lot! Sometimes even switch out to LTK monk.

https://www.d3planner.com/671294684


chino
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Joined: 08/18/2015 - 23:54
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 01:20

@vx6546wb thanks a lot for sharing that.

But man, that Traveler's Pledge... what a crime! congrats :)

I guess around 1k paragon pools aren't really that important yet. I can speed 75s and run 85s too, just really slow and die a lot. So I might just stay between 75 and 80 for now. Had to laught so hard at the molten comment. That's the reason I can't watch him sometimes, he's being a bit suicidal sometimes and makes me scream.

What are you using as a pool search setting?
And given that you don't run Unity nor Esoteric, do you have Paragon points in Vitality?


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 08:09

I run with 1000 points in vitality...for 5000 vit.
I run rifts for pools when low on keys, otherwise I run the cow level manually for the ten stacks. I craft the bovine pole arm to get there. It's fast as hell. Cube an ingeom kill one elite and blood rush around. Two pools each hand run.


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 08:47

pools aren't worth it for paragon 1000...sorta. They still give you a boost. Problem with it, you'll chew through it fast. It depends how often you have a chance to look at your bot. If you aren't gonna be around for 10 hours or so...then it certainly isn't worth it. But if you can check up on it every few hours. I would stack up on ten pools and then run. A boost is a boost.

If you're in the gearing mode...run your grifts. Then run bounties for ten pools. It's not efficient at all for pools...but you can stack up on mats for crafting. Certain items are damn near impossible to get without the cube. The Julian Love ring has an extremely low drop rate and gettting a good on top of that...screw it. I just crafted mine. Took about 1000 mats, but I think it was worth it. 


Kaotik
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Joined: 05/12/2015 - 13:52
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 14:12

Loving this script, been using it a while across multiple builds. I did have to change the cache settings for orbs though as it was missing a lot when the bot ran off to fight some side mobs it forgot the orbs.

Any chance you could add 'Land of the Dead - Frozen Lands' and 'Simulacrum - Reservoir' to the skills please? Just started using this as have many others and it has enabled me to push far more easily into higher GR's and obliterates the Rift Guardians.

Thanks.


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 16:25 (Reply to #308)

The very first version of this script had Simulacrum in it but the build wasn't near as good as what we have now for many reasons.  Your best bet, if you really want to use either of those skills effectively with the bot, is to make use of D3helper so you can fine tune exactly when/how they're used.  There are too many limitations on what we're able to do with ROS-BOT scripts to make them work as well as they could/should.

itsme
Joined: 07/02/2017 - 20:31
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 14:16

For some reason my bot is now stashing my potion. I didn't change any settings and the potion is in the same spot as always (top left). Any suggestions?


nasioc
Joined: 12/04/2015 - 08:23
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 15:00 (Reply to #310)

did you remember to equip it onto your cast bar?

btw... that isn't a script specific question, that should go in the forums or on Discord.


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 15:15

@koatik...Rek made a few comments on adding those to the script. The long cool downs aren't that bot friendly. In order for the two to work most effectively, they are timed opposite each other...which makes scripting more challenging. 

I definitely use them...when I play by hand. 

With the current set up...can't imagine it would give you that much of a boost.


Hayduck
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Joined: 10/21/2014 - 18:37
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 17:19

@Rek are you still using the old D3 planner for XIII rifts?  https://www.d3planner.com/226250894


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 17:51

If you are running t13 rifts -- wouldn't use that set up.

Bone armor - harvest of anguish is a little better
Much better amulets - Rondals, TP, HF, star of az (bitch to get a good one tho)
Steuart greaves with RORG - adds a bit to the movement speed (and definitely will add a lot next patch with the buff).
I would keep witching hour and run stone of vengence...if you have a decent PUR (10 or better)
Ditch extended serv and go overwheelming essence. 


blablub
Joined: 10/18/2015 - 06:03
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 18:50

Done with:

  • Prestacked Pools and Keys on GR88
  • Beta Skript!!!
  • D3Helper with "Reks - Definition" for casting Skeletal Mages
  • All of the Avoidance and Fastmode Settings provided in this Script
  • 2.2Mio Player Health
  • Siphon Blood and Cord of the Sherma and Reaper's Wraps/ Globe Pick - 10y / CDR on Helmet and Shoulders
  • P4,1k

blablub
Joined: 10/18/2015 - 06:03
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 19:46

Now i switched the script to the updated one and the siphon blood doesn't work anyway. Doesn't matter on which button i place it, the bot doesn't spell it.
Then i switched back to the beta-script and then the same again Oo
Anyone can help?
If i replace siphon blood with the bone spikes it works again ^^

greetz

edit: it works. i needes to delete the whole script and copy it new :D
 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 20:12

Question -- is PUR gonna be as important with the siphon blood skill...it has a built in 40 yard PUR?


Leproman
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Joined: 10/13/2015 - 19:33
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 20:56

Hello, i was using this script, till 3 days ago (on my premium licence)
Now, he´s expired, and cant use the script again!!
So, now using this script is a premium one?
Necromancer is premium on ros?
Someone can give some help?
TY!


rek
DONATOR
Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 21:31 (Reply to #318)

Yeah it's not the script... ROS-BOT still considers Necromancer support a "premium feature"

Squirt1337
Joined: 01/23/2016 - 13:36
Tue, 08/22/2017 - 22:53

bot left game when was 10minute and boss rift, any solution?


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:18 (Reply to #320)

Ooooh.  A question that's answered right in the OP.  These are my favs :P

Let me copy/paste the answer for you so you don't have to work too hard  ;)

Settings:  the “GR XP” settings in the master profile have “Run timeout” set to 10 minutes.  If you want to run gem ups with your bot, use these settings instead: https://www.ros-bot.com/bot-settings/gr-gem-ups-425897

Btw, if it sounds like I'm giving you a hard time... It's cause I am!  Muahahahaha.

vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 00:24

Did the gift run longer than 10 minutes? If so, you might have to change some global cache settings


vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 00:26

Trying the new script and build
22 games in and at 494 b/hr
hope to post good number later tonight


sphinky
DONATOR
Joined: 12/25/2014 - 20:27
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 01:17

Running with Rek's profile, script pauses on corners etc from time to time. Anyone else see/get this?


GH Meph
Joined: 11/02/2016 - 07:55
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 03:16

To get 500 + what gr and avg time u Got ? I am thinking what next patch be looking like. WoL and Multishot seems easy to script 85+ in 2/3 min


daddy94
Joined: 05/25/2015 - 15:46
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 03:34

the sherminator is awesome ! whit my 1k5p, i can focus 300eph.


Icelance
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Joined: 03/18/2015 - 14:09
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 04:48

I'm just curious to see the insane result of @Radioheaded with the new build
 


Viperous
Joined: 01/08/2017 - 13:08
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 08:11

Hey Rek,
Just wanted to say thanks for the script.  It's working great, even at 12xx Paragon.

Had a quick question, as I'm not entirely sure of the math of Area Damage.

I am currently using a Jesseth Skullscythe with the following stats:

  • 1518-1845 Damage
  • +10% Damage
  • +7 Attack Speed
  • + 16% Area Damage


I just had a primal drop

  • 1560-1940 Damage
  • 1000 Intelligence
  • 1000 Vitality
  • 7% Attack Speed


Is the primal worth using, and if so would you roll the Vitality to Area Damage or % Damage?  Note: Even with the loss the 16% AD I would stay above 100% AD.

Thanks for the help!

Viperous
 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:08 (Reply to #328)

I would probably keep the first one...but you should be able to run both and see. Just think the AD is gonna help more.

AD works like this - each hit has a 20% chance of causing area damage to everything in a 10 yard radius of the monster that procs the area damage. If the AD procs - you get x multiplier of damage. If you have 120% AD - then all the mosters in a 10 yard radius of the monster that proc'd the AD will get hit with 120% of the damage. It's really nice for clearing trash. I think it speeds things up nicely (especially when we are looking at max xp/hr).


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:26 (Reply to #329)

"Is the primal worth using?"  O.o

So one of the best things about primals (IMO) is how easy they are to reroll... Roll the vit off til you get +10% damage or +24% area damage (whichever comes first) then do at least a 6 hour run with it (longer the better).  When you finish/stop the run, make sure to screen shot or write down what your EPH was.  Then reroll the scythe to whichever stat didn't come up the first time.  Now here's the most important part.  Do not change anything else.  Run the same build, gear, GR level.  The only difference should be what you rerolled on your scythe.  Then do another run for roughly the same length of time.

That should give you your answer :)

nasioc
Joined: 12/04/2015 - 08:23
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:04


 

Done with:

  • Prestacked Pools and Keys on GR86
  • Live Script
  • D3Helper with "Reks - Definition" for casting Skeletal Mages
  • All of the Avoidance and Fastmode Settings provided in this Script
  • 2.2m Player Health
  • 3m unbuffed sheet damage
  • The Sherminator build / Globe Pick - 8y / CDR on Shoulders / Purple gem in helm
  • P4k

rek
DONATOR
Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:32 (Reply to #331)

Grats man that's sick.  To think... not even a month ago you hadn't broken the 400/hr mark yet.  OP Necro is OP.

vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:04

Ran the script overnight
10 hours - 108 games
419b/h
4 deaths
P31xx
GR85
PUR10, 2.2m health


vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:24

Food for thought

looking at belts to try for regular rifts/bounties...for fun. Probably not max'ing xp/hr
Insatiable belt - 5% bonus health bonus health for 15 seconds and stacks up to 5 times...nice bonus to the massive health pool and with blood siphon, you're picking up a ton of health globes
Razor strop - 400% damage to enemies within 20 yards after picking up a health globe...add the AD we run with this build...might look like a WOH wiz build :)
The 400% weapon damage ain't gonna be much but with the number of globes and AD...might clear some trash on T13 and be fun to see.

Not at home to try it out. But sounds like some fun.


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:39 (Reply to #334)

Razor could/might work with the Inarius set but I dunno how much good it would do with Rathma.  Problem with Rathma is the set bonus only buffs pet damage.  So any damage coming from the Necro (including cool procs from gems/gear etc.) get nadda.  Inarius buffs ALL the damage done by the necro.  Problem there, is you're competing with Dayntee's.  

Insatiable would be interesting to at least test and figure out how the mechanics work.  I've honestly never used one.  I wonder if the 15 sec timer refreshes each time you pick a globe, or if the timer stacks kinda like satiated.... If it stacks, it could be useful, maybe... Hard to give up Witching Hour or Sherma though.

vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 09:45

People that are asking about max'ing speed for T13

It might be nice to start a dialogue about different builds and see if there is anyting we can do to speed them up...next patch will have some massive improvements but for now

Change bone armor to decrepify opportunist - the bone armor harvest of anguish doesn't seem to last long enough to see a buff
run kerms buff belt
boon of the horder gem/wreath light gem - both have movement speed boosts
Steuart's greaves with RORG (cubed) - this one might be much more effective in the next patch with the updates
Maybe cube lost time instead of scyth of the cycle

Drop compass rose/TP and try HF amulet with avarice/COE/brigg's wrath --- might group up lots of mobs and really proc that AD.

Anyone interested in trying different styles/setups - PM me and maybe we can tweak the games/hr for the T13/bounties.
 


Diablochico
Joined: 08/16/2017 - 17:00
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 11:26

Hey Rek,

First thanks for the work you did, that's the first season I'm botting and I'm really impressed how good it works, just having several issues with the bot not moving anymore when I restart it after I really play, it just use Blood Rush for moving... I guess it's a matter of keybindings that maybe stay in the cache... If someone have a tip for that it will be much appreciated.

Actually I'm using Decrpify build for GRs both with the D3Helper you reworked that really improve perfs, and I noticed Decrepify has disapear from your post so I was wondering if it will still be supported, couldn't check this today cause I wasn't able to start my bot this morning due to the issues above...

Giving you my feedback I found the Decrepify build much more efficient than the Bone Armor and my char (P10XX) was able to finish a 93 GR dying only two or three times (I guess I was pretty lucky on the rift). I did this just to see how far it could go. But maybe on higher Paragons Bone Armor is more efficient...

Again thanks for this script and be indulgent with my english, I'm just a froggy after all...


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 13:16 (Reply to #337)

I didn't remove Decrepify from the script and am planning on leaving it in there for anyone who wants to use it.  The main reason I removed that build from the OP is because it was causing confusion.  People weren't sure which build was best to use for what.  I wanted to try to cut the OP down to a reasonable size that people might actually take the time read through (crazy thought I know).  But yes, that build will still work as always.

daddy94
Joined: 05/25/2015 - 15:46
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 03:04 (Reply to #338)

merci =)


bartolo
Joined: 01/16/2016 - 17:39
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 17:58

AWESOME!!!


bartolo
Joined: 01/16/2016 - 17:39
Wed, 08/23/2017 - 18:04

The Sherminator without D3HELPER works fine, doing GR96 now I have my gems at 100!!!


russianvr4
Joined: 03/17/2017 - 02:05
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 00:40 (Reply to #341)

are you doing anything different gear/settings wise?
what para?


Diablochico
Joined: 08/16/2017 - 17:00
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 04:53

Thanks for your answer, by the way the Sherma build seems to work perfectly good.


grygi13
Joined: 09/23/2015 - 11:39
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 07:24

Hi All,

My bot is dying 1-2 times per hour with new build.
Everyone have the same issue?

Staying in about 10 games/h on gr80.
Was trying to tweak fastmode to clear more trash and upped percentages in avoidance setting but seems that it do not help too much...

P1700+
1000vit - all paragons except ms and max ess.
1 700 000 health
vit gems in chest and pants
2k sheet dps
All 85+ augments
100% AD.
Eso insted of zei.

Generaly I wouldn't care about that but if bot dies even 1 time per hour then there is no point to look for pools...
 


vx6546wb
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Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 08:46

Playing around last night - trying to optimize t13 runs
- used lost time, scyth of the cycle, cubed in geom
- cubed a rorg and equiped steuarts greaves
- changed bone armor to harvest of anguish rune and blood rush to hemostasis
- used a krelm's belt

It runs pretty fast.

 


Icelance
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Joined: 03/18/2015 - 14:09
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 08:57

Guys a question/curiosity. But what's your primal drop rate per day with these scripts/new build ? Obv standing around 10.5/11.5 g/h.


vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 09:31

I seem to run around 3-4
they really suck tho...just got a primal nailbitter!!


Icelance
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Joined: 03/18/2015 - 14:09
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 11:05

Quality is not important RNG is always RNG xD But I dunno why maybe I'm unlucky but in the last 7 days I only see 0-1 primal xD with same setup.


vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 15:11 (Reply to #348)

I have now had 7 primals today -- and my run started at 6 am and it's 1 pm now...maybe just a great day. But I am definitely getting a decent number of primals every day.


russianvr4
Joined: 03/17/2017 - 02:05
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 12:07

rek is the motherfucking man!

i started a run last night where it was doing almost 600b/hr for the first hr, unfortunately i ran out of keys so xp/hr dropped down to mid 400's. farming more keys now and i'm sure tonight i'll get close to 500b/hr sustained
para 3550, gr86.


vx6546wb
DONATOR
Joined: 02/10/2015 - 20:07
Thu, 08/24/2017 - 12:28

Since my last post - I have had 3 primals drop

wildwood
butchers carver
mask of scarlet death


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