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rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Sat, 07/29/2017 - 22:39 #1
Description
Class: 
Necromancer

 

ROS-BOT 2.500 UPDATE:  The script has been updated to support the major engine changes made in ROS-BOT 2.500.  You should see much better avoidance and positioning, fewer deaths and better EPH.  I haven't changed the avoidance settings yet but it's possible we can even loosen those up a bit eventually.  As always, if any of you notice any severe issues or if you start seeing worse numbers (GPH or EPH etc.) let me know.

Updated the demo vid as well!  Enjoy.

 

Demo Vid: GR 93, p31XX, 3.5m sheet dps

 

8/14: XP/HR Results courtesy of ros-bot legend, radioheaded

 

Greater Rifts Original Build:  https://www.d3planner.com/513261613 Updated for 2.6.1

 

Greater Rifts Build "The Sherminator" :  https://www.d3planner.com/716545242 Updated for 2.6.1

 

Gear Options

Both of the D3planner builds above are "end game" p2500+ gear configurations.  If you’re lower level paragon and/or your bot is dying too much, try one of the following options (suitable for either build):

  • Tank Mode:  Keep Endless Walk and swap out Zei’s for Eso

  • Tankier Mode:  Keep Zei’s and swap out Endless Walk for Unity and either Wisdom of Kalan, Eye of Etilich or The Star of Azkaranth

  • Tankiest Mode:  Swap out Zei's for Eso AND swap out Endless Walk for Unity and either Wisdom of Kalan, Eye of Etilich or The Star of Azkaranth

 

 

Master Profile:  https://www.ros-bot.com/master-profiles/26-necro-607945

Important Notes on Master Profile

  • Pickit:  The pickit in the master profile is my personal pickit.  It’s not technically public although you’re welcome to use it at your own risk.  Just be aware, I tend to make changes to it often.  Regardless of which pickit you use, make sure you enable "Pick Globes" and set the "Globe Scan Radius" to somewhere around 10 yards for your Reaper's Wraps.

  • Cache:  if you change the “Close clean Distance” in your cache settings make sure to change the “Item scan range” in your pickit to match!

  • Settings:  the “GR XP” settings in the master profile have “Run timeout” set to 10 minutes.  If you want to run gem ups with your bot, use these settings instead: https://www.ros-bot.com/bot-settings/gr-gem-ups-425897

  • Avoidances:  If you're using The Star of Azkaranth use these avoidance settings instead: https://www.ros-bot.com/rathma-grs-no-fire-667763

 

 

Customized D3helper

Due to the way Skeletal Mages are currently implemented in ROS-BOT, I wrote a customized version of D3helper that knows how many Skeletal Mages are summoned at any given time.  Using this, along with the script, should increase your EPH by approximately 10-15%.
 
Download link:  https://github.com/reks-scripts/D3Helper-Reks-MageMod/releases/download/v2.6.1/D3Helper-2.6.1-rek-mages.zip
Source code (for my nerd bros):  https://github.com/reks-scripts/D3Helper-Reks-MageMod/tree/master

D3helper Setup Instructions:

  • Download the zip file from the dropbox download link above

  • Unzip the contents to where ever you like (I have mine on my desktop for example)

  • Launch ROS-BOT, wait for D3 to start and login

  • Select your Necromancer and enter a game

  • Run D3helper as Administrator

  • Disable every skill except for Skeletal Mages by simply clicking each skill once to change its boarder color from green (enabled) to red (disabled).

  • Start your bot

IMPORTANT:  you DO NOT need to use D3helper if you don't want to.

TROUBLE SHOOTING: if you're seeing any errors when trying to run D3helper make sure your .NET framework is up to date (version 4.7).
Another possible fix (suggested by 81401).  Download and install both of these:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/Download/confirmation.aspx?id=14632
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555

 

 

Huge thank you to lau for helping me test this thing and also rake and the boys in the beta and scripting Discord.  And of course thank you to Radioheaded who's put up with testing almost every one of my crazy ideas along the way.  This script wouldn't be a thing without all of your help.

 

A couple of you have asked me if there's any way for you to send a little "thank you" donation my way... Please don't feel obligated, I do this cause I enjoy it, not to try to make any profit off it lol... that said, who am I to say 'no' if someone's screaming "take my money!"

Bitcoin: 1r9nwtMdzM1KvwbnF9guLjLXxMr59Dger

 

alencroat
Joined: 04/01/2016 - 19:27
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 14:39

can I ask what para level you test this on?
..nvm i see it


zummin
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Joined: 07/08/2015 - 22:32
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 15:24

OMG I can't believe I'd ever see a necro script by rek. PRAISE DA LORD!


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 18:07 (Reply to #3)

LOL don't get too excited.  It seems to work well for GRs but when trying to rift for pools in between... Things don't go very well lol.  Trying to figure out a way to speed it up.  Stay tuned.

zummin
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Joined: 07/08/2015 - 22:32
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 12:17


P11xx gr65s 0 augs in S11


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 16:00 (Reply to #5)

Yeah hang tight guys.  I'm talking to the devs about a couple adjustments to the way skeletal mages are handled and working on a more stable build along with some more script changes.  Will get this ironed out and running a lot smoother ASAP.  I hope lol.  Either that or pull the plug on it and just go back to Wiz :p  Necro has proven to be rather frustrating to say the least.

rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Wed, 08/02/2017 - 16:17

OK y'all.  New update is live.  Have at it.

AnusBonus
Joined: 01/22/2016 - 14:12
Thu, 08/03/2017 - 04:55

Hey Rek, thanks for v2 update, i'll give it try today and post my results!


laurensnld
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Joined: 09/05/2015 - 15:16
Thu, 08/03/2017 - 15:47

IMBA script


Kartoffelsuppe
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Joined: 01/25/2015 - 14:37
Thu, 08/03/2017 - 16:46

running 73, without pools. 180 b/h

anyone here with more ?? 


majinv
Joined: 10/11/2015 - 19:38
Thu, 08/03/2017 - 22:11

thanks for another great script. actually prompted me to buy a premium license. you shifty devil you


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Thu, 08/03/2017 - 22:35 (Reply to #11)

You hear that ROS-BOT team?? Where's my cut?? LOL.

As always man, it's never just me.  Full team effort on this one.  Still one of the best parts about ROS-BOT to me is the community.  Everyone working together for the greater good of maximizing that XP/HR heh.  Glad you're enjoying it.

warcry789
Joined: 06/18/2017 - 15:43
Thu, 08/03/2017 - 23:21

Thanks alot Rek you are the man now dog!!!!! I was serously thinking of quitting necro but your v2 script wow!!!! Keep the good work yo!


zummin
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Joined: 07/08/2015 - 22:32
Fri, 08/04/2017 - 12:10

  • P13xx (S11)
  • GR75
  • DPS - 1.75m
  • HP - 1.02m

Overall working WAYYYYY better than first iteration. I think once I get more augs into gear it'll slam 80s at 200b/hr no problem.


kangseo1
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Joined: 04/21/2015 - 21:03
Fri, 08/04/2017 - 12:12

Very nice...
Thank u.


username1
Joined: 06/04/2017 - 09:22
Fri, 08/04/2017 - 16:16

blows the other rathma profiles away... I'm getting good results with my first tests... Im using endless walk and it is still quite tanky with 1.5 mill life and eso...I will test star of azkaranth with unity/ string of ears instead of witching hour later. Search for xp pools is probably the best option for this build! Thank you.


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Fri, 08/04/2017 - 16:27 (Reply to #16)

Good call on the search for pools idea man.  I'm going to test that on my next run cause T13 rifts with the GR build is painful AF to watch lmao.

I'm very curious to see if the search for pools thing works out better.

rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Sat, 08/05/2017 - 00:59

Finally was able to get in a good long GR 79 test run with my p2100 NS Necro.  Had prestacked keys and was rifting for pools.  The deaths came around the 8 hour mark when I paused it to see if it could handle using BotP instead of ESO.  Problem is I forgot to give it more health to help make up for it lol.  Ended up swapping back to ESO a couple hours later and no more deaths for the rest of the run.

ek250013
Joined: 11/21/2015 - 14:39
Sat, 08/05/2017 - 01:19

i think im going to try to aim for radios numbers I know i have the gear for it  with pg 3700 so im going to put all my points in to vit :D

 


AnusBonus
Joined: 01/22/2016 - 14:12
Sat, 08/05/2017 - 04:53


P11XX, GR 76, no keys, no pools, search for pools none. I'd say that i'm half way to a decent gear. All paragon points are in Vitality so far. 
Rek, what do you think of theses results? I think i might not have enough DPS for GR76 (games / hour is a bit low). 
I'll do a bit run @GR73 to try. 
 


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Sat, 08/05/2017 - 09:44 (Reply to #20)

Yeah it looks like GR76 may be a little high for max EPH for you atm.  Still pretty good looking numbers though but if you can get your GPH up closer to 10.5 you'll probably be better off.  One thing we're finding as more and more results come in, is that the area damage actually has a fairly significant impact on games per hour as well.  Probably the result of mages melting extra trash mobs from the AoE.  So try to add a couple area damage rolls too if you haven't already.  GL!

Kartoffelsuppe
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Joined: 01/25/2015 - 14:37
Sat, 08/05/2017 - 20:15

i want to see radios gear :D


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Sat, 08/05/2017 - 22:56 (Reply to #22)

I haven't seen it either but I don't think it's anywhere near perfect...  Thing is though, once your paragon level reaches infinity and beyond, you really don't need perfect gear any more lol.

GH Meph
Joined: 11/02/2016 - 07:55
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 05:16

what paragon of radio ?


radioheaded
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Joined: 05/16/2015 - 04:29
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 05:17

I'm gonna send an almost exact Gear and Skillset D3Planner Link as soon as I'm back from my weekend trip.

Then again. It's really just Paragon at some point. What I can definitely recommend is Elite Damage Reduction on Chest and Shield.


Kartoffelsuppe
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Joined: 01/25/2015 - 14:37
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 09:53

ok ty Radio!


fadedglory
Joined: 02/22/2016 - 22:46
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 10:54

Great script, but somehow the bot doesnt cast devour often enough, at one point the devour buff falls off (i use devour sated instead to buff my hp). Any idea why?


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 11:49 (Reply to #27)

Based on how devour was implemented in the ROS-BOT engine, it can only be used if there is 1 or more corpses within 60 yards and I have it set to check every 100ms.  So the only reason you'd lose the buff is if there were no corpses for it to devour or some kind of bug in the engine.

Stinger910
Joined: 11/10/2015 - 11:36
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 21:12

Pretty good script, getting about ~150b xp/hr at < 900 paragon. Soloing GR 80's in about 7-8 mins and getting about 10-12 rifts/hr. Still not sure how someone can get 2.5x my xp rates haha.


username1
Joined: 06/04/2017 - 09:22
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 21:19

I am getting 400-420 billion per hour with para 3500+ filling up on pools first then doing search xp pools over 8 hours with no deaths..... using star of azkaranth and area damage on 3 pieces life per hit on bracers only... around 2.2 mil life...I have max pickup on all pieces but 1 which helps a ton... highly recomend star of azkaranth because even with molten avoidence at 100% life the bot will still stand in it sometimes ... for some reason the necro does this more than wiz or wd...thanks again


username1
Joined: 06/04/2017 - 09:22
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 21:29

If you are over paragon 1500 I would recommend putting area on weapon over 10% damage


radioheaded
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Joined: 05/16/2015 - 04:29
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 10:07

Hey,

so here´s a D3Planner Link with my settings (main stats are random). My Paragon is 4.3k(ish).

Some things I find important or worth noticing:

  • I prefer a greater Health Pool. I recommend 1.7 - 2.2 Million. That way your Avoidances kick in later. I will try a 95% Molten and Arcane Setting in the future to see how I´m doing. When you survive 1-2 consecutive molten would be awesome.
  • This brings me to my next recommendation. Find a decent Star Of Azkaranth. What kills you 9/10 is Molten and Blazing Guardians. Another huge benefit of it is, that you can get rid of all fire affixes in your Avoidance Settings and speed up rift clearances due to not waiting till molten has had it´s explosion. I had rifts where I lost at least 20-30b/h due to this affix. If you don´t have one (like me) go for either Eye of Etlich or Wisdom of Kalan.
  • Try to reach 100 Area Damage. If you are below 2K Paragon try to max out other stats or try to hit 18 Frames Breakpoint. It´s a huge damage boost if your stats are not that awesome anyway.
  • Elite Damage Reduction on shield and chest is something I don´t want to miss.
  • Gambling: Try to gamble on Rings or Amulets with a high shard limit. Long Town Routines kill your XP/h. 
  • Gems: If you consider between Zeis and Powerful go for Zeis. If you have trouble with staying alive, either run lower or use Esoteric. If you run without Keys I would never run Esoteric!
  • My rule of thumb concerning games an hour is 11. If you´re above it, try a higher GR. (Vice Versa)
  • All my Screens right now are done with Prestacked Pools and Keys! I want to show what´s possible with the script and all my record Screens are done this way for true comparison. If you run without Keys you will never reach that numbers. After we figure out what is best in terms of performance of the script, we might figure out how to do TXIII in a more efficient way.
  • I use 100% copies of Reks Fastmode and Avoidance Settings.
  • I´m using Masterprofiles.


This is a very young script and even though it didn´t perform that well at the beginning, I saw the potencial. Since then I´m in contact with Rek every day running betas of the script, testing it, giving feedback and let my "crew" do the same just to be able to give him a chance to tweak it as good as possible. 

For now I can say that if you have Keys at hand, 80% of you will run XP/h values that you never had before. Give it time, watch your Bot and adjust accordingly. The right GR Level is Key. Once you find it, I promise you´ll see very good results.

Cheers...

 


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 08:58 (Reply to #32)

Thanks Radio.  I like how since you already had attack speed on gloves and a ring you rolled the attack speed off of you Witching Hour in favor of the 15% life roll.  Good thinking.

I'm dying to try the Star of Azkaranth thing but no RNG love for the rek on that one yet lol.  Thanks for hookin us up with info on what's been working best for you. 

ek250013
Joined: 11/21/2015 - 14:39
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 12:19 (Reply to #33)

thanks radio :)
 


attax
Joined: 10/15/2015 - 19:26
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 07:45

wher are the avoidance


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 08:50 (Reply to #35)

There are two sets of fast mode and avoidance settings, one for GRs and one for T13 and you can find them all in the master profile:  https://www.ros-bot.com/master-profiles/26-necro-607945

AnusBonus
Joined: 01/22/2016 - 14:12
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 09:04

Could you explain what are the 18 Frames thing? I don't understand... 


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 09:29 (Reply to #37)

In D3, attack speed isn't linear.  It looks more like stairs.  Because each attack has an animation to it which requires X frames to play though.  Basically, if you use Taskers in the cube, 10% attack speed from paragon, 7 on weapon and 7 on 1 other item... Your mages attack animation requires 24 frames which equates to 2.5 attacks per second (D3 runs at 60 fps).  

The next step up (commonly referred to as "breakpoint") requires an additional 35% attack speed which means you need it on your weapon, both rings, belt, gloves, bracers and amulet.  Then your mages attack animation drops down to 18 frames which equates to 3.33 attacks per second.  There is no in between for the mages... They either attack at 2.5/sec or 3.33/sec.  So once you have attack speed on your weapon and 1 other item... There's no reason to have any more unless you're crazy enough to go for the next breakpoint.

I hope that makes sense, I'm pretty tired today lol.

ski
Joined: 12/29/2015 - 01:18
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 09:59

Two questions since I'm new to this script:
1. Do people run fast mode on all the time for both GR and Normal? Or just normal? I'm unsure when to enable fast mode for the best xp/hr.
2. I'm at 1.5 mil sheet, 951p, 1.2 mil hp and have tried both 75's and 80's with keys stacked and only seeing around 140 bil/hr, 7-8 games per hour I think. Seems quite a bit lower than others - is it purely paragon? 

Thanks!


radioheaded
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Joined: 05/16/2015 - 04:29
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 10:10

@ski: 

1. Best is to have different Fast Modes and Avoidance Settings for the respective Rift. GR would be something more careful, while TXIII is more glass canon.

2. Aim for 11 games per hour (G/h) - GR80 is waaaaay too high for you. Try GR72 or GR73 and see how fast you are. You should definitely get over 10 G/h.


ski
Joined: 12/29/2015 - 01:18
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 11:20 (Reply to #40)

@radioheaded: 
 

Thanks for the advice. If I may, a clarification on #1: this script includes fast mode settings, which I've imported into my master profile matching the one linked in the OP. The part I'm confused about is when I should enable fast rifting and most scripts don't touch on that. Should I basically have FastGR and FastRift on all the time or only when farming T13 for keys? 

For example, I'm going to switch to GR avoidances, fast mode, and build to try and run 72/73 as you suggested. Should I also have FastGreaterRift on for that or leave it off?

Thanks again!


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 22:03 (Reply to #41)

Hi Ski, for most scripts (including all of mine) you want to have both "FastRift" and "FastGreaterRift" set to "True" always.

fadedglory
Joined: 02/22/2016 - 22:46
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 11:06

pretty sure that mages have a set ASPD. 2.00 ASPD normally, 3.00 ASPD with Tasker and Theo, either cubed or worn.

D3planner is incorrect in this regard. Plenty of discussion in the battle.net forum about this.


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 12:06 (Reply to #43)

Nice, thanks for the heads up.  I know better than to trust D3planner on things like this, and yet I still trust it on things like this... It always used to be so accurate and up to date.  Not so much these days.  Next script update I'm just gonna pull all the 18 FPS stuff out of the OP I think. 

username1
Joined: 06/04/2017 - 09:22
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 13:36

I tried dropping unity for brigg's wrath and bone armor for decrepify and witching hour for dayntees binding... it has the potential to help the pets kill faster but the main issue is having enough resource to keep a lot of mages out even with the eternal torment passive. I wonder if there is a way to be able to use that ring effectively.... Food for thought!


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 15:51

MOAR MAGES update is live!  Here's my GR79 run with my p2200 necro and the latest changes:

Compared to 276b/hr I was at 2 days ago... This is a new personal best for me and first time over 300/hr with my new bot account... Even better than I've ever had with my Tal's Archon wizzy.

Looking forward to hearing some feedback from you guys.  Enjoy!

majinv
Joined: 10/11/2015 - 19:38
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 17:22

quick question. is your pikit ok to use again? i know you were tweaking it before and skipping identifying stuff. thanks

edit: guess i could test it myself and not be a total leech for info


rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 17:22

I would never say it's "OK" for public use lol.  I tend to change it often and without warning...  But you're welcome to use at your own risk.  It is ID'ing items again though so I can keep an eye on dat mad necro loots.

majinv
Joined: 10/11/2015 - 19:38
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 18:23

thanks!! I'm gonna try it cause it has my 2 fav classes covered well. If it breaks, there's always a backup :-)


Ghost1337
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Joined: 07/21/2015 - 12:26
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 17:29

  • P34xx
  • GR80
  • MAX APS // 18 Frames Necro // AS 2.11
  • HP - 2.0

rek
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Joined: 05/28/2015 - 02:15
Mon, 08/07/2017 - 17:34 (Reply to #50)

Woo! Nice numbers.  Now reload the script and try with the updates.  You should clear 400/hr after that.  ;)

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